tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post3619635451671676803..comments2023-05-16T10:36:44.939-04:00Comments on Hartzman Tax & Fiduciary: Kieth Brown; "Crony Capitalism and Local Developer Roy Carroll Red Flags on This American Express Incentive Deal, More Info. and REPOST"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger146125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-91885624669627820932010-05-20T22:34:31.251-04:002010-05-20T22:34:31.251-04:00the news and record has a article out on 5-21-2010...the news and record has a article out on 5-21-2010 about how american express will come to town but won't take any incentive money.<br><br>SEE I TOLD YOU SO , have fun TREBIC TROLLS with this onetriadwatchhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01470318773895235030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-58470519665096044782010-04-24T08:40:57.071-04:002010-04-24T08:40:57.071-04:00"When the public "invests" in these..."When the public "invests" in these improvements it is the developers that still receive the return"<br><br>Bada BingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-8755359501328154152010-04-23T21:13:13.834-04:002010-04-23T21:13:13.834-04:00"we get new 1 billion dollar tax base and job..."we get new 1 billion dollar tax base and jobs!"<br><br>All there is, are two buildings that will be worth far less than $400 million.<br><br>The stuff inside the building is what makes it worth at least $300 million, which they will be depreciating off thier taxes.<br><br>The point of the post doesn't seem to be about the efficacy of the project, but how some of Greensboro's Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-75977122281347334252010-04-23T19:01:28.415-04:002010-04-23T19:01:28.415-04:00Do Greensboro city buses run all the way out to Kn...Do Greensboro city buses run all the way out to Knox Road?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-24941011215710702942010-04-23T19:00:31.591-04:002010-04-23T19:00:31.591-04:00"Amex can hire who they want, but I'm sur..."Amex can hire who they want, but I'm sure they aren't planning on hiring people that have to commute very far--common sense."<br><br>That's the point! This is on the edge of the city and more likely to benefit people outside the city. This is 20 minutes east of downtown! It's also only 20 minutes from downtown Burlington. <br><br>Why aren't they coughing up cash!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-51400412165982035012010-04-23T18:48:04.292-04:002010-04-23T18:48:04.292-04:00What is the proposed tax value of the Amex propert...What is the proposed tax value of the Amex property? How is that value calculated? How many square feet of building, how much land? <br><br>Let's see if the values are realistic. If buildings and land cost on average $50-100 per square foot and this is supposed to $400 million - are they building 4 million square feet of space? That's four times the size of the mall. I think these Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-79716947329189610202010-04-23T07:04:25.759-04:002010-04-23T07:04:25.759-04:00There needs to be more transparency in government....There needs to be more transparency in government. We are seeing issues at the state and local level on a regular basis.<br><br>Elected officials need to provide full disclosure about their business relationships, sources of income, properties held, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-10420824619934217812010-04-23T06:19:42.218-04:002010-04-23T06:19:42.218-04:00Umm... I think we have water, sewer and roads alre...Umm... I think we have water, sewer and roads already available in the city.<br><br>Why can't AMEX locate where we already have these things?<br><br>The money should be used for job training for residents of Greensboro. Have them locate in Greensboro, where they cna hire Greensboro residents, and give them incentives for every greensboro resident they employ.<br><br>The incentives shouldn&#Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-26483754434536479172010-04-23T03:26:01.701-04:002010-04-23T03:26:01.701-04:00Isn't this out near Burlington on the highway?...Isn't this out near Burlington on the highway? How will a company going out there bring jobs to Greensboro? Are they only going to hire people from Greensboro? They should get the money from the state not us. Our elected officials have to cut teachers jobs, but then they do this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-64629629975172913782010-04-23T00:21:02.672-04:002010-04-23T00:21:02.672-04:00What the hell do our taxes do for us now? I'm ...What the hell do our taxes do for us now? I'm all for giving it up to Amex if we can get some jobs here and a nice business park.Gnaggernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-22227431262249091362010-04-23T00:17:14.592-04:002010-04-23T00:17:14.592-04:00Vie de la Communism!Vie de la Communism!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-60146174558775066652010-04-22T23:41:00.408-04:002010-04-22T23:41:00.408-04:00I don't understand you wikipedia post...that c...I don't understand you wikipedia post...that concerns corporate tax, not sales/consumer tax nor income tax. We Delaware folks pay no taxes on items we buy and have ridiculously low income taxes all thanks to corporations and big business. LOVE IT. Also, small business is helped by the big business too in form of lowered pass through taxation for private companies and private corporations. Alice Wondersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-53704799323241007222010-04-22T23:36:38.015-04:002010-04-22T23:36:38.015-04:00Not really sure why this conversation involves Car...Not really sure why this conversation involves Carol. I mean we cant knock on him for having the land that Amex wants. Maybe he was the best marketer. But whatever the case, Amex chose that spot. Isn't that the area where the ATT building park is? I'm sure that that was a big reason why Amex liked it. But who cares. Carol probably owns more land than anyone in greensboro so the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-52813364257517823522010-04-22T23:28:42.201-04:002010-04-22T23:28:42.201-04:00Amex picked that spot out because Amex is the shak...Amex picked that spot out because Amex is the shaker, not the city. The city has to listen to the company...Amex can go wherever they want. Its up to us and the city to make gso as attractive as possible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-25990370138920469972010-04-22T23:27:09.621-04:002010-04-22T23:27:09.621-04:00I don't think yall understand what's reall...I don't think yall understand what's really going on here. The county isn't handing a check over to Amex. That's not the incentive. The county helps finance the deal similar to banks, but at a lower rate because they use tax dollars to lower it. Then after the business gets going, the tax dollars are paid back and the gov gets new taxes on the property and business as well Kenny G.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-57718958257617814792010-04-22T23:21:56.835-04:002010-04-22T23:21:56.835-04:00Lot's of businesses and developers target prop...Lot's of businesses and developers target properties that may be eligible for incentives depending on the companies that operate on them. Nothing wrong with that! No secret there! See google! No conspiracies idiots, just smart business. your property can be incented too. why the conspiracy theories? Go to us.gov and read all the incentives available....there is tens of thousands available Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-28174951294746437632010-04-22T23:19:03.881-04:002010-04-22T23:19:03.881-04:00I'd like to hear more about why some vacant lo...I'd like to hear more about why some vacant lots in far eastern Guilford County are more feasible than an infill location in Greensboro where we already have the infrastructure. Instead of spending dollars on new infrastructure, the City and County could instead use those dollars to retrofit an existing location. Our economic development incentives continue to be in direct contradiction to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-58993301182480099182010-04-22T23:17:26.337-04:002010-04-22T23:17:26.337-04:00Seems like there has got to be some empty building...Seems like there has got to be some empty buildings around here that already have the required infrastructure. These government incentive packages need to stop. This practice should be outlawed. Government is getting way too big and getting involved in way too much and this is one area they should have no business being involved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-80397011006635907732010-04-22T23:17:18.473-04:002010-04-22T23:17:18.473-04:00You had to be at the council meeting on tuesday. ...You had to be at the council meeting on tuesday. They went over the request. The asked to infrastructure. It was okayed by the GCC first.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-64250913442567352392010-04-22T23:16:36.909-04:002010-04-22T23:16:36.909-04:00Got to thinking some more about this. Has Mr. Carr...Got to thinking some more about this. Has Mr. Carroll created a new business model where you assist in the recruitment of corporations to look at property you've stockpiled, apply to gov't for incentives to make your property look more attractive and then sell to make your profit? Fascinating, and it can be made to sound like you are doing the community a favor by having them invest. Not Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-22998645462632191192010-04-22T23:11:07.028-04:002010-04-22T23:11:07.028-04:00Delaware charges no income tax on corporations not...Delaware charges no income tax on corporations not operating within the state. Delaware's lax corporate laws are important because the United States has an important corporate law doctrine called the "internal affairs doctrine." Pursuant to this rule, corporations which act in more than one state are subject only to the laws of their state of incorporation with regard to the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-33438598172864571442010-04-22T23:06:05.384-04:002010-04-22T23:06:05.384-04:00Anon: Go look it up yourself: www.delaware.govI p...Anon: Go look it up yourself: www.delaware.gov<br><br>I paid property taxes, but I actually pay more here in greensboro. They are able to have no consumer taxes because the gov generates most income from corporate taxation. I used to work for an auditing company in Delaware. Delaware was able to fund more for the public than you would believe.Alice Wondersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-46877246140323556152010-04-22T23:05:48.425-04:002010-04-22T23:05:48.425-04:00Where is the application for the incentives? What...Where is the application for the incentives? What transparency? Where are the documents? Please post a link.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-19406291363572574442010-04-22T23:04:36.088-04:002010-04-22T23:04:36.088-04:00How do we protest this? Is there a petition we ca...How do we protest this? Is there a petition we can sign?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566757574668004451.post-27268451417204177662010-04-22T23:03:45.019-04:002010-04-22T23:03:45.019-04:00"Kenny G. said... Transparency is there. See ..."Kenny G. said... <br><br>Transparency is there. See the application for the incentive."<br><br>where is the application for the incentive?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com